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>> he can focus on donald trump and in what way there are times when he speaks, he will not say trump's name. i think tonight you'll you'll the funniest topic on planet earth is not on trump. donald trump has given comedians stuff to work with for decades biden will, they'll, they'll do this thing, but luck for me. i am excited i did about everything, but the biden ever at all. i'm excited about collin joseph. i think a lot you're not if you're not a saturday night live person, you don't know how funny this guy is. >> this guy. >> and soares, a hell, yeah, so to me, that's i'm looking for him. >> i'm waiting for him scott jennings. >> yeah. >> do you think that there is a way to entice voters when you take this podium, a lot of people do watch this is there something that you could say that they're like, you know what he is really funny. >> i can no we're but but for the president, i don't know. >> i mean, if you snap off a funny joke or two, it'll be replayed and people will see it. >> i'm not expecting him to scold the press. >> i mean, that's what he said he was going to do. he told
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now, trump never attended the white house correspondents dinner while he was president. he did attend though as a guest prior to being elected, tonight's other for headliner. in addition to biden is colin joe's from saturday night live he's expected to take some jobs at politicians on both sides of the aisle. biden and trump included all while biden is setting up there on stage with him and now, you mentioned earlier there's going to be a delicate balance here. he's going to have to strike a balance between funny and serious, especially with people protesting around the country right now that's right. all right, julia, thanks so much from that update from the white house, we appreciate it across the country, dangerous and powerful storms are threatening millions and the central plain states, tonight, tornadoes and severe weather warnings stretching from texas to mission so again, with rare warnings of multiple and strong tornadoes and excessive rain and parts of oklahoma and texas in the omaha neighborhood of elkhorn, destructive tornadoes guarded homes friday leveling e
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obviously he's going to crack a few jokes about donald trump. obviously, the fact that right now he's on trial in new york. i know from the reporting that his team has been whipping up some good jokes. they rant about four hours over the past few days, whipping up some jokes. so look, i think it's gonna be a funny time president biden last year was able to gin up some laughs. so i don't expect it to be any different this year. of course, the real question is, is this going to be the last time he's laughing as president with the election coming november, we'll just have to wait and see on that one absolutely. >> and of course, before i let you go you're numbers guy. and you have always looked you look at all the numbers. does history suggest that a speech at a correspondents dinner can actually do anything substantial, move polls in any way you know, i was looking at the questions that we're said to me before this segment. >> i saw that one whoever wrote that up is quite clever. it made me laugh. no, there's no example at the white house correspo
obviously he's going to crack a few jokes about donald trump. obviously, the fact that right now he's on trial in new york. i know from the reporting that his team has been whipping up some good jokes. they rant about four hours over the past few days, whipping up some jokes. so look, i think it's gonna be a funny time president biden last year was able to gin up some laughs. so i don't expect it to be any different this year. of course, the real question is, is this going to be the last time...
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former assistant, and a banker from michael cohen trump's former attorney and fixer. >> but the bulk of this week's testimony came from david pecker. >> that's the former publisher of the national enquirer, who described how his publications suppress negative stories about trump as he was running for the presidency in 2016. john dean served as white house counsel during the nixon administration, and he joins us now john, always lovely to see you. thanks for coming on on this saturday. i'm curious, just first of all, what you've taken away from this first week where do you don't win or lose a case on on a week? you actually could lose it if you fumbled too badly, but this case has shown this prosecuting team knows what they're doing. they're telling you a story they've said an overview. they've sort of laid the basis of the broad conspiracy phoe to influence the election. and they're now getting down into some of the details for the jury. so it's just a stage setter at this point, pecker was a good witness the publisher of the national enquirer and it's been an attention grabbing week
former assistant, and a banker from michael cohen trump's former attorney and fixer. >> but the bulk of this week's testimony came from david pecker. >> that's the former publisher of the national enquirer, who described how his publications suppress negative stories about trump as he was running for the presidency in 2016. john dean served as white house counsel during the nixon administration, and he joins us now john, always lovely to see you. thanks for coming on on this...
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good job as trump's assistant, ghraieb often appeared on the apprentice trump profit. >> he asked me to call you and tell you to meet him tomorrow morning at the new york stock exchange. >> graff said in her testimony that she felt the apprenticed elevated trump to rockstar status nicholas also focused on demonstrating trump and graph had a good working relationship. she asked if trump was a good boss graph responded, i think that he was fair and respectful boss to me. she added, sometimes we'd peak is headed in say, go home to your family, which i thought was very thoughtful of him as graff testified, trump sat with a closed lips smile tilting his head to get a better view of his former assistant trump's team made clear graph was testifying under subpoena with nicholas asking you don't want to be here. do you correct graph for applied earlier trump's attorneys worked hard to undermine a foundational witness for the prosecution ex-tabloid executive david pecker, who was back on the stand for his fourth day of testimony during trump's attorney, emile bove as questioning of the former
good job as trump's assistant, ghraieb often appeared on the apprentice trump profit. >> he asked me to call you and tell you to meet him tomorrow morning at the new york stock exchange. >> graff said in her testimony that she felt the apprenticed elevated trump to rockstar status nicholas also focused on demonstrating trump and graph had a good working relationship. she asked if trump was a good boss graph responded, i think that he was fair and respectful boss to me. she added,...
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trump's office for decades. she testified how before trump became president and she was his gatekeeper, keeping close track of his contacts, emails, phone calls, and meetings. >> she told the jury it was a very stimulating, exciting, fascinating place to be court is not in session on monday, but the trial will resume on tuesday. likely wrapping up a banking associate who work closely with michael cohen to build the shell company that he used to pay stormy daniels. and then it's unclear who the prosecution's and next big witness will be. paula reid, cnn, new york are joining me right now to talk more about this trial is jeff swartz. he has a former judge in florida and a law professor at the tampa campus for the thomas m. cooley law school. great to see you again, judge thank you. >> it's nice to see you, too. >> correct. so how do you assess the impact of the testimony from david pecker, the first witness who took the stand for four days this week in the trial i think david pecker was an outstanding choice for t
trump's office for decades. she testified how before trump became president and she was his gatekeeper, keeping close track of his contacts, emails, phone calls, and meetings. >> she told the jury it was a very stimulating, exciting, fascinating place to be court is not in session on monday, but the trial will resume on tuesday. likely wrapping up a banking associate who work closely with michael cohen to build the shell company that he used to pay stormy daniels. and then it's unclear...
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the latest on the hearing on trump's presidential immunity claims. next live from the nation's capital, one of the most unforgettable nights in dc, there's wonderful read back here again, president biden and camino being collin joseph headline the white house correspondents dinner, live tonight at seven eastern on cnn, right now, pet dander skin cells in dirt are settling deep into your carpet fibers. >> stanley steamer removes the dirt uc and the dirt you don't your corporates aren't clean until their stanley steamer clean. >> and the same i won't let my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis symptoms define me emerge as you with trump via most people saw 90% clear skin eye four months. >> and the majority's stay clearer. i'd five years cbs allergic reactions may occur, can fire me please. your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight that. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms or if you had a vaccine or plan to emerge as you emerged, trim phi it asked her doctor about trump via the day you'd get your clear choice. dental impl
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the stand on friday, shedding light on the inner workings of the trump organization in trump's hush money trial, rhona, let me add to cost less rhona graff, whose office was next door to trump's on the 26th floor, trump tower said she was in control of this calendar and maintaining his contact list at the organization graph confirmed to contact. >> she maintained were for former playboy model karen mcdougal and adult film star stormy daniels, to women who alleged affairs with trump, both of which he denies. mcdougal's contact entry included a phone number, email, and two addresses. daniel it's contact listed herself phone. she testified as far as she can remember, trump never used email to communicate prosecutor susan hoffinger, ask graph if she had seen daniels at trump tower graph responded that she vaguely recalled one seeing daniel's in reception on the 26th floor then it was trump's attorneys turn to cross-examine graph. susan nicholas asked graph about trump's interest in casting stars in celebrity apprentice, suggesting that was the reason daniel's was spotted at trump tower
the stand on friday, shedding light on the inner workings of the trump organization in trump's hush money trial, rhona, let me add to cost less rhona graff, whose office was next door to trump's on the 26th floor, trump tower said she was in control of this calendar and maintaining his contact list at the organization graph confirmed to contact. >> she maintained were for former playboy model karen mcdougal and adult film star stormy daniels, to women who alleged affairs with trump, both...
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we understand baltic leaders, polish leaders are also trying to pursue swayed trump and trump's allies, that this must continue this aid for ukraine. and saying, you know, this is also good for america because it creates american jobs. >> are you in a way pleasantly surprised that this congress, there's maga group in congress pass this law, pass this bill i said from the very beginning in an interview to you, by the way when you asked me whether we have planned b if the congress does not pass the law, i said, we don't, we only have planned a and if i'm not mistaken following that interior was heavily criticized for making no plans be but our strategy is always to get the best for ukraine, even when very few believe that we will succeed in the end. so we have planned a the vote, the successful vote in the congress in the anse regarded and there was an enormous amount of effort of many people in many countries behind that behind that result but this is how you win worse if you have plenty, make no mistake. you will end up with plan b. but this is not what will save ukraine. ukraine will
we understand baltic leaders, polish leaders are also trying to pursue swayed trump and trump's allies, that this must continue this aid for ukraine. and saying, you know, this is also good for america because it creates american jobs. >> are you in a way pleasantly surprised that this congress, there's maga group in congress pass this law, pass this bill i said from the very beginning in an interview to you, by the way when you asked me whether we have planned b if the congress does not...
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is it a win for trump? that was striking to me, trump has this free airtime to deliver his message. >> but i think it's really hard to argue that it's a win for trump should biden be talking about it more in, out there, more. >> i think biden's exacting costs that don't require him to talk about it. trump is tied up in a courtroom every day. he's not on the campaign trail, able able to prosecute his message, his schedule, and availability for fundraisers is not what it should be. so i think let me bring cara him because the fact that matter is he was talking about the trial and how cold it was. >> but now he realizes i got a free three or four minutes on every channel and he's talking about other things. he talked about the campus protests di mean this week of just talking about the debates so it mean he's getting his message is yes, but it's not a great place to get your message out there doing this in front of a courtroom or you he also continues to complain about the weather or whatever was inside the co
is it a win for trump? that was striking to me, trump has this free airtime to deliver his message. >> but i think it's really hard to argue that it's a win for trump should biden be talking about it more in, out there, more. >> i think biden's exacting costs that don't require him to talk about it. trump is tied up in a courtroom every day. he's not on the campaign trail, able able to prosecute his message, his schedule, and availability for fundraisers is not what it should be. so...
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however, several new poll a rant by overnight, by trump on truth social at a brand new trump's super pac website titled radical ethane kennedy suggests the opposite may now be true. don't forget to vote on today's poll question. it's were kaddish.com should diversities permit protesting students to sleep intense on school property today's new album is breaking records who gets to say what country is comey country beyond, say a nashville's run it streaming exclusively on meds to test the toughness of the key is sorrento expo, and the key is rented turbo-hybrid we we created some of the wettest spring hottest summers wendy is false and coldest winters all on one track to prove these three row suv was built for the let's qia movement that inspires zyrtec allergy relief works fast and last the full 24 hours, so they can be good liver, dance okay. >> dave, let's be more than our allergies seize the de with zyrtec shingles, the rash can feel like an intense burning sensation and land asked for weeks. shingles can make it hard to be there for your loved ones. over 50 the virus that causes s
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they're not interested in voting for donald trump but they're not motivated to vote for president biden what do you say to those people? just consider it out. >> yeah, it's a bad idea certainly understand the sentiment, the demand for more. one of the things that i actually appreciate about this generation, their expectation of government is something that i really do appreciate. i'm not mirrored the city of chicago, if it were not for young voters, i won by 26,532 votes, 27,000 new voters came to vote for me last april. that did not vote in the first round all under the age of 34. so we have to make sure that we are paying attention and we're responding to their demands, not just about student debt, not just about the wars that exist. what we're talking about environmental justice, making sure that public accommodations actually reached the very people who provoked them. i'm a social studies teachers. i don't want to nerd out on you too much, but after the civil war, there were five simple demands. education, housing, health care, jobs, transportation. these are the things that are sti
they're not interested in voting for donald trump but they're not motivated to vote for president biden what do you say to those people? just consider it out. >> yeah, it's a bad idea certainly understand the sentiment, the demand for more. one of the things that i actually appreciate about this generation, their expectation of government is something that i really do appreciate. i'm not mirrored the city of chicago, if it were not for young voters, i won by 26,532 votes, 27,000 new...
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trump's office for decades. >> she testified how before trump became president, she was his gatekeeper, keeping close track of his contacts, emails, phone calls, and meetings he told the jury it was a very stimulating, exciting, fascinating place to be a court is off on monday, but on tuesday when cohen's former banking associates will be back on the stand to wrap up his testimony. >> then it's unclear who the next significant witness will be. >> but again, it's only three-day trial week, next week, and the other thing we're waiting for is a decision from the judge about trump's alleged violations of the gag order with a hearing this past week about that, but we're still waiting for a decision there. and the alleged violations are racking up prosecutors alleged more violations. this week, and there's gonna be another hearing on gag order violations next weekend. amara, victory is unclear what the judges strategy is in holding playing out on a decision all right. >> paula reid. thank you. a ron's government is striking a defiant stance toward israel and the us. but the iranian people ar
trump's office for decades. >> she testified how before trump became president, she was his gatekeeper, keeping close track of his contacts, emails, phone calls, and meetings he told the jury it was a very stimulating, exciting, fascinating place to be a court is off on monday, but on tuesday when cohen's former banking associates will be back on the stand to wrap up his testimony. >> then it's unclear who the next significant witness will be. >> but again, it's only three-day...
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on the 26th floor, trump tower? or said she was in control of his calendar and maintaining his contact list at the organization, graph confirmed to contact she maintained were for former playboy model karen mcdougal, and adult film star stormy daniels, to women who alleged affairs with trump, both of which he denies mcdougal's contact entry included a phone number, email and to addresses. daniel's contact listed her cell phone she testified as far as she can remember, trump never used email to communicate prosecutor susan hoffinger, ask graph if she had seen daniels at trump tower, graph responded that she vaguely recalled one seeing daniel's in reception on the 26th floor then it was trump's attorneys turn to cross-examine graph. susan nicholas asked graph about trump's interest in casting stars in celebrity apprentice, suggesting that was the reason daniel's was spotted at trump tower. graph responded, that's what she assumed testifying. i vaguely recall hearing him say that she was one of the people that may be a
on the 26th floor, trump tower? or said she was in control of his calendar and maintaining his contact list at the organization, graph confirmed to contact she maintained were for former playboy model karen mcdougal, and adult film star stormy daniels, to women who alleged affairs with trump, both of which he denies mcdougal's contact entry included a phone number, email and to addresses. daniel's contact listed her cell phone she testified as far as she can remember, trump never used email to...
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trump's office for decades. >> she testified how before trump became president, she was his gatekeeper, keeping close track of his contacts, emails, phone calls, and meetings. she told the jury it was a very stimulating, exciting, fascinating place to be court is not in session on monday, but the file will resume on tuesday, likely wrapping up a banking associate who work closely with michael cohen to build the shell company that he used to pay stormy daniels. and then it's unclear who the prosecution's and next big witness will be paula reid, cnn, new york fernanda via ilona is a criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor, and she joins me now from new york. >> thank you so much for being here. so early with us, so no real bombshell revelations from yesterday, but some compelling testimony what stoked to you yes. >> yeah. so we did still get some compelling testimony from the remainder of david pecker's testimony, as well as those two other witnesses. one thing that is clear from the wheat when it says that we heard from miss that there was this conspiracy he to get this caching
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will not deliver trump policies. he will deliver chaos. and if anything lead to a backlash. so we'll set his policies much further back than they would otherwise be. your even acknowledging he can't accomplish those republican policies. >> what i was saying was, if you want trump's policies, if you're maga and want to make america great again the other candidates will be, will be successful at that much more than he will but the reasons i stated that's gonna be donald trump, that's right. >> i'm certainly not going to get anywhere near what i'd like under biden and biden is not a great moral exemplar okay? and is he following the laws here? he is giving away another round of forgiving student loans after he lost it in the supreme court. >> and he thinks get away. anything you can get away with it by getting it out the door before the election. >> but this is not enforcing the law on the borders, but those are policy differences that you disagree trump. >> i remember also when border numbers were at an all-time high i
will not deliver trump policies. he will deliver chaos. and if anything lead to a backlash. so we'll set his policies much further back than they would otherwise be. your even acknowledging he can't accomplish those republican policies. >> what i was saying was, if you want trump's policies, if you're maga and want to make america great again the other candidates will be, will be successful at that much more than he will but the reasons i stated that's gonna be donald trump, that's right....
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donald trump's world. and especially if he think, look anytime you represent people in the media, like trump is like a lot of other high-profile people are in my opinion, they overemphasize the public relations aspect of the trial. they assumed the jurors are reading it. they assume the jurors are violating the judge's orders and looking at and they're trying so hard to influence them i haven't found that to be the case. i've found after a verdict, juror say, yeah, i was in a cab and the thing popped up. i was on my phone, but i've never found a juror after questioning them after a verdict, that layout blatantly violet, now they could be lying to me, but i will tell you there are certain defendants who like they really emphasize on getting the message out after the jury's and paneled when the jury's not supposed to email, see the goal might not be two, to influence the jury so much is really just to provoke a miss trial, right oh, that's a win for the defense in any case, particularly, what would it take t
donald trump's world. and especially if he think, look anytime you represent people in the media, like trump is like a lot of other high-profile people are in my opinion, they overemphasize the public relations aspect of the trial. they assumed the jurors are reading it. they assume the jurors are violating the judge's orders and looking at and they're trying so hard to influence them i haven't found that to be the case. i've found after a verdict, juror say, yeah, i was in a cab and the thing...
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she remains loyal to trump's. she was only on the stand for about a half an hour, but even in that context, and maybe maybe in that context, what she said today about stormy daniels being at trump tower and trump having that contact information for mcdougal and daniels? it's very important. also important was another witness on the stand today, the man who actually arranged michael cohen's $130,000 payment to daniels. >> gary farro worked first republic bank and he testified that cohen contacted him just days after that access hollywood, grab them by the peak tape was released. >> now remember, at that time, trump's campaign was in panic mode and pharaoh testified that at that time, cohen sat up, set up not one but two llcs. and the second was called essential consultants it was done on october 26, 13 days before the election. and that's the shell company that cohen then used to pay stormy daniels. and remember, it is that is that payment and trump's reimbursement of that payment to cohen? that is at the heart of
she remains loyal to trump's. she was only on the stand for about a half an hour, but even in that context, and maybe maybe in that context, what she said today about stormy daniels being at trump tower and trump having that contact information for mcdougal and daniels? it's very important. also important was another witness on the stand today, the man who actually arranged michael cohen's $130,000 payment to daniels. >> gary farro worked first republic bank and he testified that cohen...
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he said he went to trump tower. he saw donald trump and that donald trump had the thing tim for taking care of the doorman's story great. and karen mcdougal story. so then trump's lawyer saying confronting with him some notes that an fbi agent had taken after an interview, david pecker gave to them. and in those fbi notes the notes say the david pecker didn't recall any gratitude from donald trump's, so he was challenging on on that asking him about that david pecker says i know what i remember. this is going back to 2018. i didn't recall back from what i'm saying here is that during the fbi investigation, i know what i said yesterday happens, so i can't reconcile what the fbi interview was. if someone made a mistake or not beauvais says, so you can't reconcile because what you said yesterday is inconsistent with what's in this report, correct? pecker says yes, but i wouldn't be responsible for this report, but they said i understand. so you're suggesting that the fbi made a mistake here. pecker said, i know what th
he said he went to trump tower. he saw donald trump and that donald trump had the thing tim for taking care of the doorman's story great. and karen mcdougal story. so then trump's lawyer saying confronting with him some notes that an fbi agent had taken after an interview, david pecker gave to them. and in those fbi notes the notes say the david pecker didn't recall any gratitude from donald trump's, so he was challenging on on that asking him about that david pecker says i know what i...
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, but it is trump and it is biden who is gonna be the running mate for donald trump. i mean, the veepstakes are continuing it had some mar-a-lago, by the way, next friday and all of these republicans, by the way, who are reportedly on trump's vip shortlist, are going to be attending. i don't know if this is going to be like a hunger games scenario or something else or anything. i don't know what's gonna be, but because i can succession or game of thrones airway, it feels like something's cook and i'll tell you that much. i look this to me is so interesting because it's not just about picking the vp for this time around. if donald trump wins and the polls and a swing states suggests that he has a very good shot of doing that. this is setting up the republican nominee for next time around. but in terms of this particular cycle, let's see how low these different potential republican vp nominees will go to defend donald trump what will they say to get on donald trump's good sayyed, because we've seen a lot of people who are up here, then they try and please donald trump,
, but it is trump and it is biden who is gonna be the running mate for donald trump. i mean, the veepstakes are continuing it had some mar-a-lago, by the way, next friday and all of these republicans, by the way, who are reportedly on trump's vip shortlist, are going to be attending. i don't know if this is going to be like a hunger games scenario or something else or anything. i don't know what's gonna be, but because i can succession or game of thrones airway, it feels like something's cook...
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trump appealed to your readership. packers says yes, they did what they were doing here was suppressing these stories that appeal to the rigueur ship in a way that later on in this, he does say this was actually against our interest because we could have made a ton of money on this story but chose not to because it was in our interest to help out donald. >> how does that play marcus? >> well, i think it plays well, honestly, for the for the government's case, when we go to the reputation of, your going through these themes like instead of being the national enquirer where i'm going to post these trump stories. i'm going to keep it because i wanted to win the election and that's really important for proven up in the misdemeanor to the felony sayyed this false business records claims, and i don't know. i've heard a lot of commentators say that they don't think that the campaign part is a strong, i don't know. we're only three witnesses and i feel like it's already becoming a theme that we're talking about tone. so i'm no
trump appealed to your readership. packers says yes, they did what they were doing here was suppressing these stories that appeal to the rigueur ship in a way that later on in this, he does say this was actually against our interest because we could have made a ton of money on this story but chose not to because it was in our interest to help out donald. >> how does that play marcus? >> well, i think it plays well, honestly, for the for the government's case, when we go to the...
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>> yeah, i know you disagree with them, but i had to ask you about something that trump posted what you're this week because he responded in response to you saying you'd vote for the republican ticket? wow, former ag bill barr who led a lot of great people down by not investigating voter fraud. and our country has just endorsed me for president, despite the fact that i call him, called him week slow moving, lethargic, got less and lazy based on the fact that i greatly appreciate his wholehearted endorsement. i am removing the word lethargic from my statement. thank you.
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it comes as trump. trump's team is also attacking a key member of bragg's team, the da, with past ties to the biden administration, and jason carroll is out front with this special report before former president donald trump's criminal trial got underway, before jury was seated and before the judge's gag order prevented him from making statements it's about attorneys, court officials, their relatives, and potential witnesses. >> trump had already set his sights on this man, matthew colangelo senior counsel to the manhattan district attorney, and part of the prosecution team trying trump's criminal case. >> this is all from the doj welcome to washington they're coordinated with the district attorney and the water trump's pre gag order tirades against colangelo's center on baseless claims. trump's criminal trial is secretly controlled by president joe biden, the white house, and the justice department. >> his top person well and some. others have been placed into the da's office to make sure they do a goo
it comes as trump. trump's team is also attacking a key member of bragg's team, the da, with past ties to the biden administration, and jason carroll is out front with this special report before former president donald trump's criminal trial got underway, before jury was seated and before the judge's gag order prevented him from making statements it's about attorneys, court officials, their relatives, and potential witnesses. >> trump had already set his sights on this man, matthew...
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admiration for donald trump. listen to this. this is a quote. this is her it was a very stimulating, exciting, fascinating place to be. then she said, sometimes trump would peak has said in and say, go home to your family, which i thought was very thoughtful of him. i thought that was a nice extra touch that he would take time to do that trump's lawyer, susan nicholas asked her, quote you don't want to be here, do you? and she coronagraph said correct. what's your analysis them? >> the point there is that she's under subpoena. she's not voluntarily coming in to try to help out the prosecution i think that that's something that's consistent across these witnesses. is that the only one who really is dying to get in there is probably stormy daniels and michael so call it the others who are being brought in just to tell their stories was running graph is a prosecution witness and prosecution called her. but did she do a lot to humanize trump before the jury? >> i mean, i think that she probably did i mean, it sounds
admiration for donald trump. listen to this. this is a quote. this is her it was a very stimulating, exciting, fascinating place to be. then she said, sometimes trump would peak has said in and say, go home to your family, which i thought was very thoughtful of him. i thought that was a nice extra touch that he would take time to do that trump's lawyer, susan nicholas asked her, quote you don't want to be here, do you? and she coronagraph said correct. what's your analysis them? >> the...
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he agreed to be the eyes and ears for the trump campaign, flagging any negative stories about trump to michael cohen the defense asked, did you ever are specifically use the term catch and kill in the meeting and pecker replied, no, i did not but then under redirect questioning from the prosecution, pecker reiterated the contents of the 2015 meeting, saying my understanding is those stories that come up, i would speak to michael cohen and tell them these are the stories that are going to be for sale that if we don't buy them somebody else will and then michael cohen would handle by them or trying to make sure that they don't ever get published unquote. so even if the term catch and kill wasn't used you wrote a book called catch and kill. is that not catching gill that is the definition of this colloquial term that has emerged around this catch and kill, which was a term that i and other journalists around this first started during from ami employees it was something of what's called a neologism. >> it entered into the discourse partly through this, and it was a practice the enquirer
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she's a longtime trump assistance. she worked for trump since he hired her in 1987 after she cold calls to trump organization were on a graph, testified i'd two contacts you maintained at the trump organization were for karen mcdougal & stormy daniels run a graph was on the stand for less than half an hour earlier today, trump's attorneys cross-examined david pecker, the former tabloid magnate and longtime friend of donald trump. let's dive into all of this with my panel. so jamie put rona graph into context for us a lot of people who know trump world were excited about this testimony. she was a vice president for the firm. she was a very important player in his world she testified today very testified very briefly. >> right. so loyal trustee, gatekeeper for those of us going back, who wanted to interview donald trump. that's who you call she was she knew everything was going on back when he was like a real estate tycoon and that's it back in the ice age. that was hey, you know, you want but she also her her desk was r
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on in trump's life, right? >> so right now, we're see a courts scared officers hitting roadgraph with thumbs. >> i'm not number one. it could be. did some we documents that they're asking her to review or confirm i still get the get back to if there are electronics schedules and she can attest that she was aware of them and frankly made them they can likely be brought in as evidence and she can say on this date, this meeting can happen. and frankly, for a witness like this, you could even use her for a very limited purpose, only have her up there for a couple hours just to get an a few documents as elie was saying a little bit earlier, a few documents, schedules, and so on. >> and then turn to monday where you call are tuesday where you call it. >> you just said that as far as she could remember, trump never used email to communicate. i can i can confirm that trump several times before he became president united states, and whatever i would go to trump tower to interview him, i could see that he was into paper
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not the trump organization, but donald trump. and blanche opened on that. and i think that's going to be a very important issue when it comes down to the end of the case, were not there yet. >> beauvais asked pecker whether he was conveying there were no legal ramifications when he told michael cohen the mcdougal agreement it was bulletproof. that's correct. david pecker says, yes. >> so here it's interesting. pecker actually had to double-check to make sure this wasn't a campaign finance violations to purchase and then suppress karen mcdougal's story we now know ami and pecker have non-prosecution agreements with the justice department. and of course, pecker has immunity here, but he believed at the time. now he said pecker says he didn't withhold any information from the attorneys when they reviewed the mcdougal document and to your point, i mean, none of these particular allegations, none of these agreements are what is being charged here. we haven't even gotten to stormy daniels and michael cohen's payment to her, david pecke
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. >> there is donald trump walking toward the microphone. this is when he talks, he hasn't spoken about the trial itself lately. well, here when he says this morning thank you very much, everybody i want to start by wishing my life very happy birthday i should be with her, but i'm in a courthouse for rape, drug so wreak terrible. >> what we're doing very well in this big drought everybody knows. >> yesterday was a big day. >> but i do have to begin my wishing happy birthday. >> she said i'll be going there this evening. >> answer this case finishes up with this car unconstitutional case. when it finishes up we have hi report that is just put out by house judiciary on the district attorney's office, which was done by congress. and so is it just came out really wow. moments ago, and i haven't seen it read it but it should be interesting, i think yesterday went very well in this courthouse should be over, the case is over. >> you heard what we said and the patient be over but you have to make that determination and we have a judge, you would ne
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about what melania trump or ivanka trump? with think about these affairs. david pecker says no, and just before that, he said that it was about the campaign. he was worried about the campaign rainy to you. why was that important for the prosecution? how effective do you think that argument was? >> well, it was important because it certainly now creates a bridge from the former president's brain to the allegations in the case. because remember, it's got to be a specific other crime the fourth centuries or simply a misdemeanor to get to the felony, you've got to be doing it in furtherance of another crime. here we have the election fraud. so what mr. pecker testified to now allows the jury to link the former president two election fraud. >> is it a big deal? no, i don't think it's a big deal at all. john, quite frankly, a trial is all about whose stories makes more sense, whose story is more credible? >> who do i like better? >> and right now, this is all old news. it is a victimless crime. it is so old and i don't think it has
about what melania trump or ivanka trump? with think about these affairs. david pecker says no, and just before that, he said that it was about the campaign. he was worried about the campaign rainy to you. why was that important for the prosecution? how effective do you think that argument was? >> well, it was important because it certainly now creates a bridge from the former president's brain to the allegations in the case. because remember, it's got to be a specific other crime the...
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donald trump could be held in contempt odyssey caitlyn yeah. >> well, the prosecutors wanted donald trump held in contempt. have that hearing earlier in the week because of ten violations that they had collected that they believe when beyond what the judge is allowing donald trump to say publicly about witnesses and jurors specifically, we don't ever resolve on that yet because the judge hasn't said what he's going to do. if trump is held in contempt, if he should be fined or have some other punishment or sanction then prosecutors yesterday it came into court and said he keeps doing it. here's an example about david pecker on the stand as trump walked into court or was in manhattan speaking to reporters yesterday morning all right you lot of david pecker's testimony so far one last time very nice david been very nice and nice guy. there's going to be a hearing next thursday about this, and prosecutors say that is an example of donald donald trump using his platform to make it clear he's going to comment on witnesses as they come through the courtroom. jon, katelyn polantz. thank you very
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there's always helps trump. and in the price i'm married, that was true because it crowded out the other candidates being able to make their points, and it rallied people to donald trump we are now in a general election environment in which it is slightly different and you have to think about marginal voters. now look, this case was always the least serious of all the cases. and so for this to be the only one that goes forward, that's not great. that doesn't mean that it has zero impact though. and i'll just make one last point which is one of the things that's interesting to me that i'm hearing in the focus groups, especially from women is that the stormy daniels case does remind people that trump is really gross. two women that now is coupled with a major policy issue where women have to have trust in their leader because of the abortion issue i think that cross-cutting can actually hurt him in the general election. >> i don't think you should pull for hypothetical questions because people don't. in fact think
there's always helps trump. and in the price i'm married, that was true because it crowded out the other candidates being able to make their points, and it rallied people to donald trump we are now in a general election environment in which it is slightly different and you have to think about marginal voters. now look, this case was always the least serious of all the cases. and so for this to be the only one that goes forward, that's not great. that doesn't mean that it has zero impact though....
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this was an exchange with amy coney barrett, one of the trump appointees on the court and trump's lawyer watch petitioner turn to a private attorney, was willing to spread knowingly, false claims of election fraud to spearhead is challenges to the election results. >> private as much. i mean, we just moved the allegation, but sounds private. two sounds private petitioner conspired with another private attorney who caused the filing and court of a verification signed by petitioner that contain false allegations to support a challenge. >> sounds private three private actors to attorneys, including those mentioned above& a political consultant helped implement a plan to submit fraudulent slates of presidential electors to obstruct the certification jim proceeding and petitioner and a coconspirator attorney directed that effort you write it quickly. i believe that it's private that's seems to answer a lot. >> there it does, casey and that is the genesis of the concern, right? you have to now parse out. is they have private conduct from presidential conduct and then, you know, this sort of, t
this was an exchange with amy coney barrett, one of the trump appointees on the court and trump's lawyer watch petitioner turn to a private attorney, was willing to spread knowingly, false claims of election fraud to spearhead is challenges to the election results. >> private as much. i mean, we just moved the allegation, but sounds private. two sounds private petitioner conspired with another private attorney who caused the filing and court of a verification signed by petitioner that...
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donald trump. this photo shows pecker and the former president walking past the white house rose garden. the president asking him at that moment according to him, how is karen doing and he said he replied she is doing well, she is quiet, everything is going well. in another conversation he said he referred to dougal as our girl. he also suggested trump was angry about the interviews i did with her and stormy daniels. we will bring you excerpts from our coverage tonight. >> the supreme court oral arguments and the conservatives appeared to embrace some form of criminal immunity. the liberal minority by contrast focused on the temptation that might be for the future president if they have that. >> what i am more worried about you seem to be worried about the president being chilled. i think we would have a really significant opposite problem if the president wasn't chilled. if someone with those kinds of powers, the most powerful person in the world with the greatest amount of authority could go into
donald trump. this photo shows pecker and the former president walking past the white house rose garden. the president asking him at that moment according to him, how is karen doing and he said he replied she is doing well, she is quiet, everything is going well. in another conversation he said he referred to dougal as our girl. he also suggested trump was angry about the interviews i did with her and stormy daniels. we will bring you excerpts from our coverage tonight. >> the supreme...
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with trump which he denied. perker said he would not have entered this if it didn't benefit the campaign. he said he didn't want the story to the bears are hurt the campaign cleared trump's attorney uses saab cross-examining perker to show how the mutually beneficial relationship between he and trump went back almost to dixoxn needs to extract two decades. he said he gave a heads up of the negative stories. he asked if it was sop for media to work with politicians including to win elections. perker replied, yes. >> today was a breathtaking in this room. amazing testimony. >> before court top trump said this. he cited this to the judge as many violations of the gag order not to discuss witnesses in the case. >> what did you think of perker's testimony so far. >> he has been very nice. he's a nice guy. >> the judge has set a hearing for wednesday to hear additional arguments over whether donald trump did violate that gag order. tomorrow david perker will be back on the stand. trump's lawyers will continue to cross
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donald trump? you don't think the jury is going to be somewhat offended that this guy who's running for president in the united states is involved with all these sleeves that he buried, that he buried is sex story you heard from their witness, so did this through celebrity sorted that celebrities this celebrities sort of celebrity, so this celebrity that happens all the time, it's not this unique. oh, god, they came this isn't watergate. that's my point. that watergate was a very unique time. it's the first time it's something like that is ever happen. what came out of cross examination is this happens all the time, but bringing it back to a temidayo said a moment ago, but this time they consulted their lawyers and then they started to back off because they realized that they were veering into territory with respect to the campaign that made them nervous about it the money with the money that's what matters here, is the money. >> but if i could jump out off of what you were saying on the stand, pec
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if what a day in trump world? >> there's court today hearing arguments on trump's claims of absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for anything related to his presidency. >> several justices, even seeming open to some level of immunity, while others so much i'm trying to understand what the dish incentive is from turning the oval office into the seat of criminal activity in this country this case could go back to the lower courts, which would severely delay the start of trump's federal election subversion trial that could ultimately mean that trump's hush money trial in manhattan may very well be the only criminal trial to actually take place before the election. and on day seven of that trial, the former national enquirer publisher, david pecker, has once again taking the stand to testify against trump, who surprisingly gave him rave reviews today was breathtaking this room you saw went on, was breathtaking and amazing testimony breathtaking and amazing testimony how well that's why you don't hear every day
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then that a nurse to trump's benefit. i'm not saying that's an argument that's going to win, but it's an argument if i were representing trump, i would pound that to the ground. let's take a step back for a second, kim, on this and i wanted to do bigger picture, although i do love a good legal nerd discussion, this is wonderful, but thinking about this each witness has a different piece to play. >> i think about an overall jigsaw puzzle, right? this one witness is not going to give you everything they want to have the catch and kill scheme pattern established. they want to suggest that donald trump was aware of a catch and kill scheme for the purpose of trying to have no transparency for the election in moving that particular needle. >> what did you see today? >> well, i think they've established probably the narrative that he had an intent to influence the election. not necessarily to protect millennia or his reputation and also that the catch and kill scheme was created in order to cover up the payouts to these women. t
then that a nurse to trump's benefit. i'm not saying that's an argument that's going to win, but it's an argument if i were representing trump, i would pound that to the ground. let's take a step back for a second, kim, on this and i wanted to do bigger picture, although i do love a good legal nerd discussion, this is wonderful, but thinking about this each witness has a different piece to play. >> i think about an overall jigsaw puzzle, right? this one witness is not going to give you...
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there was that moment in trump tower where he was being thanked by donald trump. this is an exchange there. pecker says he asked me how i was doing. i said i'm okay. he asked me how karen was doing and i told he asked how's karen doing? how's our girl, how's my girl house are girl doing? he said then i said she's she's riding her articles, she's quiet, she's easy. things are going fine. so he said, i want to thank you for handling the mcdougal situation. then he said, i want to he also said i want to thank you for the doorman's story. for the doorman situation in the question from the prosecutor is and what did you understand mr. trump to be thanking you for regarding the karen mcdougal story in the doorman. i felt he was thanking me for buying them and for not publishing any of the stories in helping the way i did. and why was he so appreciative as a prosecutor? the answer he said that the stories could be very embarrassing question, what did you understand that to mean? answer. i felt that it was going to be very embarrassing to him. his family, and the campaign
there was that moment in trump tower where he was being thanked by donald trump. this is an exchange there. pecker says he asked me how i was doing. i said i'm okay. he asked me how karen was doing and i told he asked how's karen doing? how's our girl, how's my girl house are girl doing? he said then i said she's she's riding her articles, she's quiet, she's easy. things are going fine. so he said, i want to thank you for handling the mcdougal situation. then he said, i want to he also said i...
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trump is, trump is the issue, not, not what could happen and to the extent trump's committed these crimes are alleged to have committed these crimes that that is not going to that's not going to be way laid by what they do so you were when predicting the supreme court or your track record is pretty good, 9-0 was was your bet for the colorado ballot case how do you see this going and essentially, when are we going to find out so they will absolutely not find absolute immunity for trump. >> and in fact, they'll, they'll find that while immunity may be constrained in connection with article two duties and some collateral, discretionary acts that there's a fact-finding process required to determine the distinction between official acts and whatever the allegations are that would support an indictment. i think they will lay out that line and then remanded to the district court for findings consistent with their guidance. i think you what you saw today was a lot of frustration with the dc circuit opinion, which sort of said, yeah, this is all reprehensible, no immunity, but it did didn't draw a
trump is, trump is the issue, not, not what could happen and to the extent trump's committed these crimes are alleged to have committed these crimes that that is not going to that's not going to be way laid by what they do so you were when predicting the supreme court or your track record is pretty good, 9-0 was was your bet for the colorado ballot case how do you see this going and essentially, when are we going to find out so they will absolutely not find absolute immunity for trump. >>...
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and that in fact, they had been doing it for donald trump trump even 17 years before the 2016 election. this is after the prosecution spent more than six hours over the last couple of days questioning pecker about the inner workings of those catch and kill stories. and how many of them benefitted trump cross-examination of david pecker, got underway in the criminal case against donald trump 17 years of providing president trump with a heads-up about potentially negative publicity? yes. the former publisher of the national enquirer testified trump's lawyers trying to show that catch and kill schemes buying negative stories to make them disappear was not uncommon. we didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or embarrass or hurt the campaign one such scheme at the crux of the da's case against trump, stormy daniels months before the 2016 election, the adult film star and director tried to sell her story of a sexual relationship trump to the enquirer for $120,000, but pecker testified he wouldn't buy it. pecker said he later learned trump's then attorney and fixer, michael cohen paid d
and that in fact, they had been doing it for donald trump trump even 17 years before the 2016 election. this is after the prosecution spent more than six hours over the last couple of days questioning pecker about the inner workings of those catch and kill stories. and how many of them benefitted trump cross-examination of david pecker, got underway in the criminal case against donald trump 17 years of providing president trump with a heads-up about potentially negative publicity? yes. the...
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that's only against trump trump is one of many in georgia, and trump's, as you mentioned, is not part of this in arizona? there are different state laws that apply. so in arizona and in some other states, their stake fraud laws that apply here you're signing fraudulent documents saying this is an official document that is providing who the state's slate of electors is. that might be easier to prove than some of the claims that would become on the federal level. i think think probably different calculations are being made on the federal level. just go after trump and try and be laser-focused on that. whereas on the state level, if you go after trump, then you face potential immunity arguments there and you make the case more complicated. so i have prosecutors have discretion, but they also have to be realistic about getting these cases he says to trial and actually getting some jury to make a determination about them. >> let's start into the major arguments in the us supreme court today. how likely do you think it is that the supreme court will end up delaying this trial beyond the nov
that's only against trump trump is one of many in georgia, and trump's, as you mentioned, is not part of this in arizona? there are different state laws that apply. so in arizona and in some other states, their stake fraud laws that apply here you're signing fraudulent documents saying this is an official document that is providing who the state's slate of electors is. that might be easier to prove than some of the claims that would become on the federal level. i think think probably different...
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trump. pecker testified, quote, i said, i don't want the national enquirer to be associated with porn star. >> he added that walmart was the main distributor of the magazine and it would be very bad for ami, the publishing company that produces the national enquirer, pecker also said, if anyone was going to buy it in terms of buying the story, i thought michael cohen and donald trump should buy it. the significance of that. do you think the idea that pecker is saying that he was reluctant to get involved in the stormy daniels case when we know at the end of the day, he didn't actually get involved. it was michael cohen who got involved. >> right. so i mean, look, i guess the the argument to be made is that that this was unusual, right? it wasn't standard fare for him to be necessarily wasn't his. consistent with his business objectives to be engaged, to kill stories, to kill stories, get it for trump, right? and then fact killing this particular story, i love acquiring the story, wouldn't ha
trump. pecker testified, quote, i said, i don't want the national enquirer to be associated with porn star. >> he added that walmart was the main distributor of the magazine and it would be very bad for ami, the publishing company that produces the national enquirer, pecker also said, if anyone was going to buy it in terms of buying the story, i thought michael cohen and donald trump should buy it. the significance of that. do you think the idea that pecker is saying that he was reluctant...
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had with trump where trump's says, how's our girl doing, right? referencing karen mcdougal referring to someone in a way that you would refer to them if you knew them, if you had had an affair with them, if they were your girl, right and in the converse, there was another conversation. >> just a handful of congress stations that david pecker testified that he had directly with donald trump in another one of those conversations, when they had just learned that karen mcdougal was going to go public liquid this according to pecker, trump said to him, and house karen. so a familiarity, not who is this stranger that has made some allegation, but com calling her by her first name, which then when you add the two together, suggests that there was some familiarity with who she was and where where the story was coming from. >> and that's the psychology that now what is in front of the jury, but that's the psychology that the prosecution is trying to get i'm sure now, in front of the jury, and i believe that discussion with holler girl was the same meeting
had with trump where trump's says, how's our girl doing, right? referencing karen mcdougal referring to someone in a way that you would refer to them if you knew them, if you had had an affair with them, if they were your girl, right and in the converse, there was another conversation. >> just a handful of congress stations that david pecker testified that he had directly with donald trump in another one of those conversations, when they had just learned that karen mcdougal was going to...